Discussion-URGENT MINE CLOSING !!

I will try to make this as simple as I can, so as not to waste your time.

We have extremely limited resources of strategic goods of Iron and Stone.

We are a county that produces money, through trade and our gold mines and we buy Iron and Stone from other counties. Now, normally, this is a good system that the admins and game master have made in order for the counties to work together, buying and selling to work together as a Kingdom.

But, with lack of experience, and some bad decisions from some other counties that produce these goods, they cannot produce the extra that we need to buy to maintain and upgrade our mines. They cannot afford to supply us. I have tried and knocked on all the doors-- they simply don't have enough to sell to us.

I mailed our King because we have had a very good offer from Scotland to sell (through teleportation) a large quantity of Iron, but the King is leaving on vacation and won't be back until the end of October. Until then, are trying a deal with Stafford, the only county right now that can help. Unfortunately, because of the distance between our counties, this will take time.

As you can see from the reports of our Trade Minister we are draining our reserves with our daily need for Iron and Stone to maintain the mines, and we cannot do any upgrades. So, I propose to immediately close the gold mine between Gloucester and Bristol, node 466, for the following reasons.
1) This is the only mine that is worked at less than half capacity;

2) citizens from Bristol can still work at the Bath/Bristol gold mine. We cannot close any other mine, because the stone quarry in Bridgewater and the iron mine in Chard supply the iron and stone we so desperately need for maintenance.

We will have downgrades if we run out of stone and iron and it will be worse if this happens at our stone quarry and iron mine.
I hope all of you understand the situation here, but if you need further explanation, please don't hesitate to ask questions.
I am doing my best to buy all the Iron and Stone that we can find, but other counties simply don't have any to sell.
We hope our King returns soon and that we are able to obtain some supplies from Stafford but I want you to understand that our only option is to close this mine as soon as possible.

Please feel free to add your comments and i will answer as much as I can but please understand that time passes and we have to react fast.!!

just out of curiosity.....what outcome would we get with iron and quarry mines working at full capacity'??..I mean would we be able to resist for a while??...

giangio wrote:

just out of curiosity.....what outcome would we get with iron and quarry mines working at full capacity'??..I mean would we be able to resist for a while??...

We dont have to risk it for now,
you know i am telling to all people to work in the mines,i am working also there every single day, we will double the prizzes for the mines and take some exra messures more.

But this is not real life, i cannot pull them there if they dont want, and time here is limited, after all half of the poeple that work in that mine are from Bristol, so they can work in the other mine and the rest can do fishing.

We are dealing with the time here untill the King comes back.

183 (-42 upkeep) tons of stone

260 (-62 upkeep) iron ore ounces

This is what we look from now on, the numbers 42 and 62 are the expenses of today, and the rest what we have in disposal.
After reset we will see the new quantities when Trade Minister post his figures.

So this closing would just be untill the King returns & can handle the transport issues or we can get more from another source? Which ever comes first?

Aeryn_Sun wrote:

So this closing would just be untill the King returns & can handle the transport issues or we can get more from another source? Which ever comes first?

True, exactly, even the King is informed about it, i cannot see the reason why this teleporting was so hard when we had several days before his departure, but this is something we not control, we just request.

But from the other hand ,if we take the option that he said NO TELEPORTATION ANY MORE with other countries, well, at least we got this option.

We are talking with Scotland about a Quantity of 3.000 iron and good number of stone, so as you can all imagine we could invest our money for a permanent solution for the future.

Looking over the TMs reports I see that we are starting to pick up some stone, but are quickly loosing iron. So, as a Chardian, I should be working in the Iron mine? We have access to stone and iron, but it looks like Iron is much worse off. Shall we tell the people to fill up the iron mine first? Would it be beneficial to slightly (i am talking .05 or .10 pounds) increase the wage of the iron mine. This would encourage people to work there first.

Thoughts?


For Somerset!
Rebo

From last night we had to close the Mine in Gloucester,
it is a measure that we need to take in order to avoid these downgrades due lack of Iron.

As you are all informed we are doing are best to gather every single Iron ounce that exists in the Market.
Counties after bad Maintenance of their Mines, they cannot aford to sell their Iron, that by ingame they have to sell us.

With the teleporting been stoped from france by the King our reserves as you can see from the Trade Minister's Reports are falling, and if we dont do this now, when we get in negative Iron number, downgrades will follow, and if they are in Iron Mine ,or the Stone Quarry it will have worse impact in our low but enough iron and stone that we produce to Maintenance them all.

We tried to go with lower max attendance of workers and we adjust for 2 days our Mines.

We put the attendance like this :

Iron-Chard : 70 capacity
Stone- BW: 55 capacity
Gold- Bath:60 capacity
Gold-Gloucester:38 capacity

Didnt worked , our expenses in Stone was stable but we had again Iron in negative fall, seems we spend a standard number IF AND ONLY one mine is open.

Here was the numbers for example for the 1st day with this measure:

Iron spend for each mine: 22+25+52+39 =138 Iron ounces
Incomes of Iron Mine in Chard = 66 workers X 1.52 iron/worker = 100 iron ounces

A negative of 39 Iron ounces for 11 Oct ( even we had rounded here also...)
(Trade Ministers report : 164 (-39 upkeep) iron ore ounces)

Today's report:139 (-24 upkeep) iron ore ounces


As you see, until further, it is the only way out until King comes back and we finish the teleporting with Iron From Scotland.
Pity that a lot of Iron stays there ready to come in Somerset and simply we cannot bring it here.
We dealing some Quantities from Wiltshire these days and we will get them in Monday but not enough to keep that Mine again functional.


Any suggestions from all that have the knowledge on this subject are welcome.

We closed a mine?! How come the public wasn't notified? And how come we took the biggest hit in stone today? Did people simply not work in the stone mine?

Since we are in such dire straights, why don't we temporarily increase the wage paid in the iron and stone mines?

Rebo wrote:

We closed a mine?! How come the public wasn't notified? And how come we took the biggest hit in stone today? Did people simply not work in the stone mine?

Since we are in such dire straights, why don't we temporarily increase the wage paid in the iron and stone mines?

The wage is in the maximum ingame can be, we give the best wage in Miners from all the counties of this game.
Budicca is informed and she is posting in public eyes warnings about this.

Lord Giangio has gotten our stocks of stone and iron up to much safer levels - Thank you by the way! - can we reopen the mines to full capacity?

The Gold Mine will be open tonight in a capacity that fit to the labour level.

Mayor of Gloucester is informed.

Sheriff is informed.

Rebo wrote:

Lord Giangio has gotten our stocks of stone and iron up to much safer levels - Thank you by the way! - can we reopen the mines to full capacity?

It was everybody's merit.....we as Council made some trade and the good people of Somerset worked in the mines....thanks everybody for Your efforts...

The #3 gold mine,Bath-Bristol, has downgraded over the weekend.

The gold mines appear to be filling with workers again. Should we consider raising the capacity?
We should also consider upgrading, we have enough iron and stone now.