Police Department

Here is a police department for our hard working police to talk about the job and relax after work.

The police chief will be granted an office in town council, but this will be a good place for the normal police officers to visit

Ok this is Barerose's office now, I think it would be nice if his police officers used this for discussions/questions on the law/procedures. This way we don't have to get into the town council and crowd that part with too many new members, so

Current roster: (I think)
-Erin
-Sela
-Deathember

If you're all still willing to be officers, I'd like you to post here (Barerose can you contact them in game and ask them if they'd like to come here? I know sela and deathie already have accounts, they just have to stop by)

stopping in here to let you know i'm still active.
O yeah i told chapelle to comtact me or barerose if carroll contact him about the slavery.

Indeed m'dear for I have sent him the same reply. Carrol seant me this today so there is hope in this matter.

From : Caroll
Date : 2007-06-09 18:22:54


I am sorry about that but i did know my sis was hireing ppl for lower then i have told her too my usally wage is about 24+ or so.
I will tell my sis to do it right (again).

The reason my sis is playing for me is i am in the army at the moment and i cant allways go on nett so she is playing for me.

I'm awaiting chapelle's response to this as we speak.
Good to see ya though and thanks for the office Mike it will do fine indeed.

that is good too hear:D

Having heard nothing more on this subject I consider the case closed and will pursue it no farther.

Barerose sir, hope you dont mind me barging in here.

I saw this earlier today

17/06 20:43 : Angelobernard hires Rebleknight for 12,00 pounds

I took the liberty of writing angelo right after it posted to remind him of the error. Hoping he could cancel it before someone got hired. I honestly think it was a simple error, as his skill require was set to 2. looks like a mis-click.

Why would anyone take a 12P job? [shrugs]

yours,
Atri

And also rebleknight is not new, he should know better himself...

From : Angelobernard
Date : 2007-06-18 03:39:19


Im sorry, I didn't know. How do I fix this?

Is the return mail I received on this matter and he has been notified on this. I feel he will make good on this mistake.

Thanks for taking care of it :D

This is why I'm glad to have a police chief :cheers:

Keep up the good work, one of these days we'll have a chat about how to deal with market manipulation, I had lots of practice back in my police officer days

Sir,

Can some one tell me why I AM IN JAIL??????

That message appears in the window where my employment should be shown.
Below that, at the bottom of the links on the left, instead of links to "town" and "duchy" it reads : "you are in police custody."


Can someone explain to me how I go from working a normal job right after reset, directly to jail without passing "GO" without charges or trial?

Help please?

Mikey's looking into it


Prisoners list:
[url=javascript:popupPerso('FichePersonnage.php?login=Atri')]Atri[/url] - police custody

I really am not sure how this has happened, you have no lawsuit yet are in police custody for no crime?!?!

Must have something to do with all that contraband alcohol for your party.

OH MY GOD! My dear friend Atri, I had NOTHING to do with this, and it all came as shock to me as well. I'll do my best to help you in these matters, and hope that you are ok until they are resolved.
Hang in there, you have friends working on this for you, and we'll do all we can to see you through this.

I realize this isn't the appropriate place for this, but as the issue arose here, i will post the additonal info here.

I remain in jail, and suffering; but at least I now know the problem [it's a Paypal problem]

However, I have now learned that Garraway is being threatened with a perma ban for "spamming" because of his posts on my behalf. Can you believe this?

I was scared and confused before. Now I'm PISSED!

Keep your heads down people, Chardians seem to have a big bullseye on their back.

If the worst should happen here, just know that I love you all. You've been dear and true friends.

Atri
Pilloried in the public stocks for "theft"

How do you get put in jail for buying things with paypal?...

Mikey is more confused then ever...

Indeed this is FREAK'n' Strange!!!!!!

Please hang in there dear sweet Atri, for we are all pulling for you.

Mike can you do anything about this? For it makes no sense at all.

Hi guys, I hope you don't mind me stepping in as well as I'm concerned for you guys. Garraway has posted more about the paypal thing here:
http://forum.renaissancekingdoms.com/viewtopic.php?t=40746

I'll say them again here:

Garraway wrote:

I spoke to Atri and it appears that the root of the problem is a billing snafu involving tokens, where PayPal somehow rescinded the payment. The King understandably felt upset, that perhaps someone was trying to cheat the system. Atri is attempting to persuade the king of her good faith and resolve the situation to his satisfaction.

We hope LJS can understand Atri's good and sweet nature. I'll try and mail LJS when I find time tonight. As well as for Garraway and his possibly getting in trouble with the censors, I'll send a message to Bullfrog and whoever else that can help. Well, I have to go eat dinner -- Will see what I can do when I come back.

Bridgewater is here for our good neighbor town, I'll try and talk to Robert Frankel and others if they can help as well. So as for now, let's keep everybody updated

On another note though I see we have another Minimum Wage Violation:

26/06 10:03 : Shaudawn hires Triton2 for 12,00 pounds

Mike this seems to be an on going problem, is there anyway we can post the wage min. in the town hall Mayors message in big letters to keep this from happening so often.

That is the purpose of the welcome letters from the mentors, if people refuse to listen theres little else we can do... other then prosecute them as it happens, people just need to learn not to hire/work for less then 15...

Indeed sir, lol, no chance in letting me get lazy there then huh, lol.

On another note concerning Atri's plight, a while back I attempted to buy a Lordship through Paypal and was instantly denied by my Credit card due to the security system built into it. I automatically rejects any foreign online purchases, thinking them to be fraudulent. I have yet to try it again because of this, I hope this helps matters a bit, for it appears to be a personal card problem that can be resolved easily without tarnishing the buy in system that helps promote this wonderful game.

Just to put the questions and speculations to rest, let me fill everyone in on the facts here, as they have FINALLY come to light. [see below]

Meanwhile, i remain in jail and await LJS's response. Let's just wait calmly now and see what happens next.

Barerose, thanks for letting me use your office. You are exactly right on the cause of the problem. Unfortunately, Paypal's policy is NOT to notify the cardholder because [as they explained it] a card thief might have opened the paypal account using the thief's email addy rather then the cardholders. They also didnt bother to notify my bank, and they SAT ON THE TRANSACTION FOR 15 DAYS without telling anyone. That's the ridicualous part. Lessons learned:
1. expect problems if you use paypal for overseas transactions.
2. LJS needs to learn a bit more about dealing with customer service issues. Jail without explanation may work in France, but where I am from, things aren't done that way.

Quote :

LJS wrote:

Quote :

On the 10th of June, you bought 21 tokens then you call your bank to cancel the transaction. You therefore took advantage of the 21 tokens for no reason. In other way, this could be considered as cheating. Do you have any good explanation?

LJS

Atri wrote:

Quote :

Your Majesty,

I have just gotten off the phone with paypal. and I now have an explanation.

The charges on the 10 June were in fact canceled. BUT THEY WERE CANCELED BY PAYPAL WITH OUT MY KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT.

As the charges will not be credited back to my account until today, they will not show up on my statement until tomorrow, so I was unaware that the charges had been reversed. AT NO TIME WAS I AWARE OF ANY CANCELATION NOR DID I KNOWINGLY OBTAIN MERCHANDISE WITHOUT PAYING.

Paypal is supposed to be sending an email to you to verify these facts. Thye say they halted the charges because it was an overseas transaction and they suspected a stolen card. They took this action without my knwoledge, and without notifying me of it.

So, hopefully that now explains where the problem stemmed from.

Which leaves us with the issue of the tokens. AS I now know that the money whcih was dedcuted from my account will be replaced there tomorrow, I legitimately owe you for the tokens.

Tell me how you would like to make this right, and I will do so. Can I purchase new tokens and have you confiscate them, thus making us even? or is there another way? Can I mail you a check? Just tell me how you wish for this to be done, please. I shall repay you for what I've recieved in whichever way you wish.

I am no thief, and I am no cheat. I pay my way, always have. I want to resolve this to your satisfaction. I also want you to realize that at no time did I cancel the transaction nor attempt to cheat the system in any way.

In the meantime, I really would be grateful if could free me from jail, as my character suffers greatly through no fault of my own.

Thanks you for your assistance, and I look forward to hearing soon from you.

Atri of Chard

I guess it depends on how it used and whether it comes from a debit/credi card or straight from yor bank account because I have used paypal on auctions and other transactions from Australia, Hong Kong, and Great Briain and hve yet to any problems [knock on wood]

I ran into trouble when I bought my Claymore, IRL it did the same thing, debit, canceled it and I had to manually go back and redo it to save face with E Bay. It is possible, it just takes time, and is in no means constitution for incarnation, it should have been handled differently. These actions are harmful and not the friendly nature that we so purpose in this great game. I don't know, it just seems a bit harsh to constitute such a drastic action without warning.

In the case of Shaudawn, he has sent the following reply,

Thank you, BareRose, for bringing this to my attention. I am working with the person I have inadvertently offended and with Sela on this. If you need to pursue this further, please contact Sela or myself.

Again, thank you, and I am sorry for my offense.

Peace,
--Shaudawn

I know now that he will make good on this matter, and will pursue it no further.