candiate for clerk position

We got a new canditate for clerk of the county loan office:

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Name - Thorpe
Town - Chard

I have also applied for an ambassador position so if elected as ambassador please disregard this application. Otherwise as mentioned in your initial post I think this would be a good way for me and anyone to get more involved in this game so I decided to apply for this position.

Any one know that person?

Given the recommendations of Ellsbeth and Justinan, I'd be happy to support this candidate

I'm bumping this topic, as it's once again a current priority. Thorpe was NOT appointed last term, and, as I mentioned in the Public Council Room, I have written him asking if he is still interested.

Should other candidates appear, they could also be discussed in this thread.

Did we discuss making this a council job?
One of the council could fill the posiion of loan clerk.

I would suggest we consider making it an extension of the TM and/or sheriff's duties but don't think they would appreciate the increased work load.

We also need to vote on the allocation of funds to the program.
https://somerset.rpg-board.net/The-council-of-Somerset-c11/The-private-council-room-f43/Funds-allocated-to-the-county-loan-program-t813.htm

to do so you need to change book IV of the legal corpus of somerset ready to do so???

A counsellor can be clerk nothing prevent it, but to limited and making it an official position in council that require a change of laws.

before you can even think about it

If a non-councilor is needed and Thorpe is still interested, I can put my full support behind him. He is currently an intern on the Town Council of Chard, and is very active. I think he would do a very honorable job.

Since the sheriff gives out cash grants, I see why Allikath feels the loan service should be related to the sheriff job. And she's right about the sheriff not appreciating the extra workload too Perhaps it could be delegated in some way to the deputy sheriffs that I was proposing to install in each town, if the mayors of those towns are in agreement.

I am in favor of ONE person holding this position. Only ONE. The accuracy of the accounting is best handled by a single individual and not a group.

Whether this person be a counselor or not I have no objection to as long as he or she is approved by a majority decision but I do object to the idea of having multiple people holding this office.

I agree one person is probably the best way to go with this position.

This was all discussed last session, when the County Loan program was initially discussed. As the laws were written, and voted on (and Allikath and Budicca to my memory both voted in favor), the clerk of the Loan Agency is an appointive position reporting directly to the Trade Minister. Any other arrangement would require a rewrite of the relevant law

Thorpe has withdrawn his application in a mail to me, which I quote:

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From : Thorpe
Date : 2007-07-30 10:15:44


I actually pm-ed Hypno about this. I have also applied for an ambassador position and I said if that position will be granted to me then to disregard the county loan officer application so I am still waiting an answer on that. Anyway even so I'm sorry for the trouble I may have caused but I'm not interested in being a county loan officer anymore as I'm a bit busy now in RL. I applied for it because it was during holidays and I had some free time but I can't anymore. I was hoping it would be granted earlier. But anyway I'm still interested in the ambassador job if it's possible and still available. Sorry once again and thank you for taking the time to analyse my application.

Yours,
Thorpe
Intern of Chard Council

So, I again request our Spokesperson, LadyMarshmellow, to announce our need for someone to staff this program.

i will repeat my self is already in the laws you cannot change that with out changing the laws ...

That job is TM related and not sheriff...

And by the way currently if you buy stuff with out asking the TM you abuse your power by laws here the definition of sheriff position and TM position:

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ii. The Sheriff manages the breeding of livestock, is in overall charge of administration of the mines, and in charge of issuing money grants from the County funds. The Sheriff can also allocate funds to the Sergeant for purposes of the Army and Constabulary forces of the Duchy

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iv. The Trade minister is in charge of overall trade in the Duchy. He controls the County fair and the productions of the County.

Trade is the trade minister job not sherrif job don'T overstep ... you are new takes time to learn please and each counsellor read the laws everything is there. Is good to suggest thing but before it, read council procedure, read what position is doing by laws, and read all laws related to council ... that will at least help me stop repeating myself thank

I would like to see how many new goods the Trade Minister could purchase if the Sheriff didn't issue any money in grants for the purposes of trade. Your 'laws' on this matter are in fact not laws at all, but inaccurate statements of the powers granted by the King's developers. They are yet one more reason that the Codex of laws for Somerset should be revised.

The fact is that the Trade Minister and Sheriff are jointly responsible for purchases of goods for the county. The Trade Minister issues grants containing goods, and the Sheriff issues grants containing money. We work together.

Perhaps I should point out that since loans are purely a financial matter, it would be more logical that the Sheriff, who looks after the finances of the county, should be responsible for this rather than the Trade Minister. The Trade Minister wouldn't have any money to give out unless the Sheriff granted it. I'm happy to work with the Trade Minister on this though.

And for your own sake, you need not keep repeating yourself like this.

How many goods a TM can buy with out money grant well a lot ... county fair is there.

You see the financial thing has always been TM thing, look at all past report, look at sajan report ... you will understand why, because you cannot see the inventory, but TM can and also see how much is in treasuary, why sherrif need to make money grant before TM put goods in it and not the reverse. The admin give that power to sherrif after some abuse done by TM, but the sheriff job has always been mines and breeding since begining of the game ... don't get illusion there. Sherrif job is not trade job...

And laws are laws ... you like or not, is the laws that's it...

In all my past term thing go like that, and by the way i always divided by domaine each position.

Economical, TM leader, after sherrif and then MS. Normally need to have been mayor or at least MS before becoming sherrif or TM. You see you don'T put someone that never issue grant of is life, neither manage mine directly in sherriff position neither TM.

Judicial, judge leader, pp second, i never put someone judge with out been PP before, if posible, need to understand laws and do some trial before making judgement at my sense.

Military, captain, constable, sergeant

There is pretty before putting anyone in this postion the duke need to check background is important for security and sergeant also the knowing how to grant.

And spoke person always been a training position or position for mayor with lack of time for the council ...

If you look in all past council, that how position get giving.

Personally feel lucky that you are sherrif, because logicialy you should be in a training position but i will not comment allikath decission here ...

We have an application for the clerks position.

Her name is Aeryn_Sun.

https://somerset.rpg-board.net/The-council-of-Somerset-c11/County-loans-agency-f110/Postulate-for-been-clerk-t663.htm

I do not know her personally but she appears to be proficient in the skills area needed for this position so barring any unfavorable character witness reports I will lend her my support in light of the demonstration and desire she has shown.

All I know of her is that she has used a couple of SAS meat grants, which have been returned in a timely fashion with the correct amount of money in them, and been pleasant in her requests. If she's still interested when she returns from vacation, or even before that, I'd be happy to vote for her, based on what i know and her application.

She is an upstanding, albeit new, citizen of Chard. She has joined our police force and has submitted an application to be a Town Council Intern. She works very hard, takes her job seriously, and is in the taverns often.

I say she would be a great candidate.


For Somerset!
Rebo

I call for a vote. We really can't dilly-dally around on this, or Aeryn will get tired of waiting.

I second if that if required here.

I agree Lady Chardonnay. Given that 100% council participation here seems to never happen I believe we need to consider a limitation of 3 days to any discussion with a vote occurring at such time as the constant stalling and waiting just discourages any interest we do stir up among the citizens.

If a counselor cannot be bothered to check the council forum in a 3 day period when they do log in daily to feed their character and work then that is their loss of voice in a matter.

I second the motion to vote on this matter and move forward.