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Hypno
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PostSubject: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2007 1:22 pm

Here the proposition is the standar template that Somerset use for all is judicial treaty:

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In their almighty wisdom, the Lords Sajanzv, Duke of County Palatine of Chester, and Hypno, Duke of Somerset, wishes to express their friendship by establishing a judicial treaty binding the citizens of Chester and Somerset to preserve that friendship over years.


Article I
1. Upon the signing of this Judicial treaty, the contracting parties agree that no one should flee from legal proceedings or attempt escape from his/her Duke's authority on his/her lands.
2. A person accused in one or both counties shall be judged by the laws and customs where the offence was committed.

Article II
1. If an accused person flees from a territory allied by this treaty in an attempt to flee justice, he will be either extradited or judged, by mutual agreement by duly appointed judicial authorities upon who's lands he was arrested. Concerning the mutual agreement, it implies a full cooperation between prosecutors and judges from both countries in order that the defendant receive a judgment he would have received if he hadn't fled. The accused should also be provided a competent defence council by the Country in which he was arrested.
2. The procedure will be the following :
- Indictment on demand by the Duchy holding jurisdiction over the crime committed. Requesting Duchy prosecutor will write the bill of indictment. Proof of Evidence against the accused will be required from the Requesting Duchy to the responding Duchy prior to posting of any indictment.
- The whole procedure is under the primary jurisdiction of the requesting Duchy. The Local responding Judge will write the sentence, but will show motives of his decision following the law of the requesting Duchy.
- Collaboration is required between juridical authorities from both duchies in order to keep the laws of both the requesting and responding Duchies respected

Article III
1. Lords, their heirs, and successors are contractually obligated to respect the entire treaty. Disregard of any clause(s) within this treaty frees the other party of his commitment until a compensation is made/or agreements can be reached.
2. An unilateral cancellation of present treaty in a peacetime context should respect the following order, otherwise, it would be assumed as a hostile act and could lead to a response by the offended party.
3. To Cancel: A mail from the Duke will be sent to the other Duke, then an official and formal declaration will be published in the other Duchy's Inn. Copies should be posted in the Embassies as well
4. Cancellation won't stop procedures already in progress between either Duchy and will continue until judgment is rendered.
5. Any unilateral cancellation in a war situation will be assumed as a treasonous act and could lead to full retaliation
6. A full or partial rewriting of the treaty or even its cancellation can be decided by mutual consent.

Signed at the Embassy of Chester on (date)

In the name of County Palatine of Chester:
In the name of County of Somerset:

Open for discussion


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PostSubject: Re: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2007 2:07 pm

Shouldn't be a problem, Saj is count there. affraid

Yes.
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PostSubject: Re: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2007 2:37 pm

Standard issue. I see no reason to raise objection
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PostSubject: Re: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2007 5:43 pm

no objection here, it looks quite standard.
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PostSubject: Re: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2007 7:40 pm

No objection your Grace
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PostSubject: Re: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2007 11:17 pm

No objection
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PostSubject: Re: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeSun Jun 03, 2007 12:18 am

If no clausula (clause) excluding political crimes is added, I will vote no. Does anybody care that I form one and put it on vote?
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PostSubject: Re: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeSun Jun 03, 2007 2:06 am

You may form one as is your right but I will oppose it.

It is an end run by certain groups to abuse the people and to have legal precedent to play dirty politics and to dupe the people by preventing the true nature of these groups to be revealed publically

TREASON is classified as a Political Crime ...if you think anyone is going to vote into place a measure that would exclude the punishment of Treason then you Sir will find that measure without support and the people very interested that you would want such laws against Political crimes in place.

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PostSubject: Re: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeSun Jun 03, 2007 2:29 am

Poliphilus wrote:
If no clausula (clause) excluding political crimes is added, I will vote no. Does anybody care that I form one and put it on vote?

You see that everywhere, and even someone that pillage a town can put that on political crime saying has for the good of town so you can forget it
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PostSubject: Re: discussion Chester judicial treaty   discussion Chester judicial treaty Icon_minitimeMon Jun 04, 2007 1:58 am

YAY!!! TREATIES!!! cheers
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