In game vote

There is an in game vote on Book 1.
Go to castle/Laws and Decrees and them click on
Bill put to vote:
Book 1 Book 1

Book 1 has been voted on but the new council will have to vote the other three books into law.
OK, actually Book 1 has to be revoted too. I guess the vote didn't take because council changed at reset so all 4 books still need to be voted on.

Actually I think the discusion about book 4 should be revisited. Rather then make the loan program law it was proposed it be a priviledge provided by the duchy to the citizens. That way the council could still impose restrictions that would not conflict with LJS decree.

Something's not right yet because there's nothing to vote on at the moment.

Also I'm currently reading all of these Books in order to make some changes where possible and therefore have a discussion about these changes. However I'm a bit busy RL so this may take a few days although I'm expecting to be done by this weekend the latest and be able to post my ideas for a discussion so please hold your voting till then.

Thank you,
Thorpe

Ok, I was quicker than I thought and I manahed to get the first Book down so here are my ideas:

Bill – Book 1

Art. 1.3.2 – I think it should first be voted on and then sent to the duke for his approval and therefore made into a law.

Art. 1.4.5 – The ‘peers’ may be influenced. Maybe would be possible to be judged in another county or somewhere where people may not be biased.

Art. 1.4.7 – i. What would an official contract be? Something like a wedding certificate and/or what else?
iii. How can we possibly know that the witnesses are not lying? Maybe we could ask for some proof of witnessing or for someone to vouch for the person used as a witness.

Art. 1.4.8 – This should never be sent directly to PP but rather to town police or something like that because the person might be a noob and a simple explanation might solve the problem instead of charging all the level 0s that don’t know about the 15p law.

Art. 1.4.9 – Maybe a definition of judicial bench would be good? That’s if it’s not defined already.

Art. 1.4.11 – Witnesses must swear to say the truth only. Or what happens? And again how can we know they say the truth?

Art. 1.4.12 – A condemned person can appeal to the Duke or CoA especially in these cases with these sentences…?

Article 5 should say People Rights and Duties. And also I think we should include an article saying “the duty to report a crime to constable, mayor or town police if known of one”

Art. 1.5.3 – ii. Do they need to live in respective duchy to buy land under that duchy’s jurisdiction?
iii. – what is this vote for?

Art. 1.5.5 – No one can attack the reputation of a citizen of the Duchy by making false accusation as this is deemed as defamation.

Art. 1.5.7 – “… been authorized to do so is a crime.” What kind of crime is? light ? moderate?

Art. 1.6.2 – The second sentence of this article doesn’t make sense to me so would be appreciated if some one can explain it to me.

Art. 1.6.6 – A definition of military organization or group of combative nature would be appropriate? Also maybe a bit more specific? Also why does the approbation need to be limited in time when it can be revoked anytime?

Art. 1.6.7 – Maybe just needs rephrased? It might be understood as the break of ANY law will be public disorder. Or I might just be confusing myself here. (Sorry if I am wrong)

Art. 1.7.3 – Are the last 2 words really meant to say social disorder or economical?

Art. 1.7.5 – This article as well as the next one seems to be conflicting. Would town decision go over duchy or vice versa? Also a consultation rather than an approval I think would be better so the mayor gets the final word regarding his town.
Art. 1.7.6 – The Duchy I think should discuss it but leave it up to the mayor as he knows his town best I guess…

Art. 1.8.2 – “In case of a tied vote the older candidate shall win.” I think this should be replaced with a vote from the council on a forum together with an explanation for their choice.

Art. 1.8.4 – Who says if the mayor or cannot run properly?

Art. 1.8.8 – I think at the end of the sentence should be added “while citing or showing the decree or law”

Art. 1.8.9 – Why do citizens need to live in town if duchy councillors don’t? (See above Art.)

Art. 1.8.10 – Should the type of crime be mentioned such as light moderate? Etc.

Art. 1.9.3 – Should we add taverns to that as well?

ALSO NEEDS RE-NUMBERING ALL THE ARTICLES AND GRAMMAR AND EXPRESSION CHECK BUT NEVER MIND.

QUESTION:

Is everyone’s voted a must in the council even it it’s abstain for the passing of laws and decrees?


Hope you all have time to give me some feedback on these ideas.

Thanks,
Thorpe

Thorpe, the books are went through the process of aproval from the previous Council, we will work on some of the articles ,but in the future.

This was the will of the precious Council and we will vote to have a new Legal corpus, in time we will discuss some articles, we have plenty of time for this.

Also, the voting is going on with the Duke included ,
with equal vote among the others, doesnt need to go for a further aproval from him or some kind of verification.

And don't work alone on them, to spend your precious time, we will discuss them all together