SPLIT from book II

budicca wrote:

Chardonnay wrote:

Were the people calling me names Patrons, I would still prosecute

I find the notion of prosecuting someone for name calling to be sad and ridiculous .

While that may be your opinion the fact is that slander and libel lawsuits were as History proves a part of life in Renaissance England just as they are in many countries still today.

It is a Historically accurate law that is rightfully on the books and not a petty law invented to target any one person or groups of persons. If people would debate the issues and not sling accusations about then it would not be a problem for any citizen as their proper behaviour would never warrant the law being put to use.

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Modern libel and slander laws as implemented in many but not all Commonwealth nations, in the United States, and in the Republic of Ireland, are originally descended from English defamation law.

The earlier history of the English law of defamation is somewhat obscure. Civil actions for damages seem to have been tolerably frequent so far back as the reign of Edward I (1272–1307). There was no distinction drawn between words written and spoken. When no pecuniary penalty was involved such cases fell within the old jurisdiction of the ecclesiastical courts, which were only finally abolished in the eighteenth century. It seems, to say the least, uncertain whether any generally applicable criminal process was in use.

The crime of scandalum magnatum, spreading false reports about the magnates of the realm, was established by statutes, but the first fully reported case in which libel is affirmed generally to be punishable at common law is one tried in the Star Chamber in the reign of James I. In that case no English authorities are cited except a previous case of the same nature before the same tribunal; the law and terminology appear to be taken directly from Roman sources, with the insertion that libels tended to a breach of the peace; and it seems probable that not very scrupulous tribunal had simply found it convenient to adopt the very stringent Roman provisions regarding the libelli famosi without paying any regard to the Roman limitations. From that time we find both the criminal and civil remedies in full operation.

Allikath wrote:

This is what I was referring to. I believe this covers mass mailing and pretty much anything else.

004 Abuse of Power
Any official, appointed or elected, who shall

- abuse the powers of their office;
- grossly neglect their duties;
- act in a way disadvantageous of the people of Somerset or any town in Somerset;
- and/or commit any deed punishable under the Laws of Somerset,

shall be punishable with either:

- imprisonment of up to three days;
- or a fine equal to the worth of the damage done, increased with a percentage between 10 and 25.

In case of an official occupying a position on the Council of Somerset, the Judge may also recommend that the convict be dismissed from that position.

You should follow thing since you are here for 8 term.

That is from the temporary laws book of the first council that is no longer valid since last december ...

Little late on the new ??

budicca wrote:

Sorry for my error I sometimes have trouble distinguishing SNP from the Patrons; especially with Hypno, leader of SNP still on the Patrons membership list:

http://forum.renaissancekingdoms.com/groupcp.php?g=979&sid=a5af1ac76be3058b420be71139da7d61

Oh I am still in, yeah I have forget to remove my self again after I get add to go defend allikath after she join patron after leaving CUE and before she quit patron for LOF. Hey just lilike you

Well I remove my self again no problem here.

Hypno wrote:

Allikath wrote:

This is what I was referring to. I believe this covers mass mailing and pretty much anything else.

004 Abuse of Power
Any official, appointed or elected, who shall

- abuse the powers of their office;
- grossly neglect their duties;
- act in a way disadvantageous of the people of Somerset or any town in Somerset;
- and/or commit any deed punishable under the Laws of Somerset,

shall be punishable with either:

- imprisonment of up to three days;
- or a fine equal to the worth of the damage done, increased with a percentage between 10 and 25.

In case of an official occupying a position on the Council of Somerset, the Judge may also recommend that the convict be dismissed from that position.

You should follow thing since you are here for 8 term.

That is from the temporary laws book of the first council that is no longer valid since last december ...

Little late on the new ??

It is still in the corpus.

Little late on removing it??

What much time i need to repeat it again and again and also read decrees gessssh

Well a counsellor that is a county counsellors for 8 time in a row should know that a book cannot be remove from for IG legal corpus but only replace and I repeat each time since december we need a book 4 and read the decrees on that date.

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New books laws of Somerset

Published the 12-23

This ducal decree is made to replace the temporary laws books of the Somerset duchy by this new one vote by the duchy council.

The laws in this decrees replace any laws in the current legal corpus of Somerset.

And in front of court only this laws is apply.

Vote by the duchy council of Somerset

Legal corpus of Somerset Duchy

Follow by the new books of laws voted in december

you miss that and also that:

http://forum.renaissancekingdoms.com/viewtopic.php?p=492721#492721

And I repeat so many time about the need of a book 4 and about that old book cannot be remove and some mayor should realize their is not cap price on bread or corn and stopping to use old laws and read the decress and forum for jah sake. But yeah sometime thing pass by one ears and get out by the others ...

Maybe you wouldn't have to repeat it if it was in English.

How can a count of 5 terms make such a mess out of the legal corpus?

How many time do I have to repeat IG corpus is the must bugging thing of all thing in game.

And a book CANNOT be remove only replace

How a counsellor that is there since first day of the county. That have vote on the temporary laws (so should know what is the temporary laws)

That vote on the permanant laws (book I, II and III) and not knowing that is the only laws.

That don't see that the books 4 is not on the forum, that book 4 is not even write it and numbering like the three first. That don't see the decrees about it.

That the past three week we talk about the new book IV that is county loans and stilld on'T get it that will replace IG the other one.

That currently voting IG on Book IV and can be read like that IG:

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Law Project

Proposed for voting on 06-16
I approve - I disagree

Replace the law "Fourth Book - Betrayal"

If all this thing don't ring a bell to you what will do it?

Gessssh and now when lack of argument, you return to the old racist thing about my english

You are all acting like children! Allie don't bring up some one's second language like that. It might not be defamation, but it is rude! Hypno, don't insult Allikath's intelligence and intellect, because of a misunderstanding involving an obscure legality. Ells stop using every opportunity to berate Allikath; you don't like her, fine, everyone in Somerset who reads in here knows that now! Stay out of it, you are NOT helping! I am sick to death of all this bickering! I will not be involved in this nonsense one more second! I reasign from Council and I renounce Politics! You are all acting far too childish for me to ever want to come into this Council room again! All of you should be ashamed! I am Ashamed to be a part of this!

Budicca I wish you most well in your endeavours in the future.

I regret you feel you need to resign but the fact is that your once fellow party member was conducting all of this sort of behaviour privately where the public eye was not privvy to it and where it was not free to be shared with the public due to the RK forum laws, and now that it has become public it is distasteful as it reflects badly.

I agree the bickering has long since needed to cease but you cannot fault any person for taking a stand for themselves in the light of harassment.

There is a time for forgiveness and there is a time for accountability and truth.

She has performed her duties well and efficiently as Sherrif and served the county well in that capacity but her behaviour in council and in private has been rude and contentious. She is knowledgeable and often is helpful on the main RK forum in the I dont know section which again is a public venue but that pales in light of her tirades and tantrums to get her way here.

You may think it childish to take issue with a jeckyll/hyde persona and that is your right but I find it tiresome and ridiculous to have to overlook and wade through such behaviour just to accomplish the duties of office on a daily basis.