Suggestion to the council

In response to Councilor Rebo's post, Alikath wrote:

I am dismayed to find my fellow list member for council publicly defaming me in open forum while comiserating with someone so undeserving.

English is English; and this English clearly states that:

Councilor Alikath is dismayed, meaning discourage or upset, that Councilor Rebo, the fellow list member for counci' is publicly defaming Councilor Alikath in open forum and moreover is "comiserating", commiserating means sympathizing with, someone, meaning Dylan Longbranch, who is so undeserving.

Let me streamline the actual sentence in accordance to English grammar:

"I am dismayed to find my fellow list member . . . defaming me in open forum."

Alikath wrote:

I had never stated that Rebo defamed me in his statement. I merely stated that it bothered me that he, considering our relationship and experience together, publicly criticized me in regard to the Dill situation.

To find someone defaming you is an accusation. There is no suppositional nor conditional statement. It is a factual statement utilizing the definitive word "to find". Publicly criticizing is not synonymous to defamation in any dictionary. Defamation is a very strong word only to be used to describe personal injury rather than simple emotional feelings of general unhappiness.

How is Councilor Rebo defaming, yet not defaming? English I understand, logic escapes me in this statement.

And why am I "so undeserving" and defamed; and why am I a situation, rather than a person? It could be presumed, that is a conditional/suppositional statement by the way, that there may be in existance a personal campaign waged against me given all the recently revealed evidence.

Alikath wrote:

I am dismayed to find my fellow list member for council publicly defaming me in open forum while comiserating with someone so undeserving.
I should not be surprised, I suppose, as this has seemed to be the case for some time.

As to the "person" you comiserate with against me, Rebo.
His "Campaign" was one solely of harrassment, defamation, and personal abuse.
Of course he received no response as he was deserving of none other then perhaps sanctions taken.
I do not respond to abuse, defamation, and harrassing tactics and I do not condone them regarding our present Duke.
Justin and I have had our issues and are not exactly close but he is the Duke and he did what he did for his reasons.
If he choses not to respond to abuse and harrassment for making those decisions that does not make him wrong.
If the council as a whole is unsatisfied with his leadership they can raise the issue in council.

I am deeply hurt by the attitude of another LOF member against me but it seems to be the Chardian consenus.

Alikath wrote:

I had never stated that Rebo defamed me in his statement. I merely stated that it bothered me that he, considering our relationship and experience together, publicly criticized me in regard to the Dill situation.
I have never filed a defamation suit against anyone even though many were deserving of such at times as Rebo and most others well know. Rebo knows I never filed one against Krelian, who if anyone was deserving it was him or against any of the others who continuously attacked me in public for nothing more then partisan political agendas.
I do not agree with the defamation laws and I have always said so and so I would not use or abuse them for my own benefit or peace of mind.
As to my comment pertaining to Chard it referred to members of LOF not an "entire town".
Rebo and this Dill are so concerned about how their own words can be misunderstood but do not take the same thing iinto account while twisting the words of others to suit their own purposes. Rebo, I know only too well how words can be misspoken and not phrased exactly right to convey the properly intended meaning. I am the perfect example of that. No one in RK is as misinterpreted as I am, as you well know by now.
I apologize if I misinterpreted your statement but it read how it read.

I have defamed no one. My statement was my own personal opinion. I merely stated that in my own sense anyone who abused, harrassed, and defamed me constantly in public for no good reason other then partisan tactics was in my own mind undeserving of any response from me other then being ignored.
That is my opinion and my response and I am surely entitled to it no matter whether it sooths someones inner sensibilities or not.

All right children...!!!

Why don't we kiss and make up...instead of nitpicking...so much nicer!!!

Or maybe a handshake.

I strongly encourage you to read this entire thread from beginning to end. Read it with the knowledge that my first post in this thread was my first post ever in this forum and moreover my first post regarding Somerset politics ever.

Understand that I tried to do the exact same thing that the two of you are doing now between the councilors presiding at the time. Unfortunately, numerous members of the council were bickering at that time, and for some unknown reason, until now, I became an enemy to certain councilors rather than a negotiator between two extremely hostile parties. Boy was I surprised.

Now to add insult to injury. By her own admission, Councilor Alikath has stated that she waged a sanction against me, considered me a "situation" and undeserving of "what" we still do not know. Mind you this is the first direct reference Councilor Alikath has ever made regarding me. Note that you will find within this reference to me that I am stripped of my human rights of self-worth by accusations leveled against me of "harassment, defamation, and personal abuse".

Moreover, a Councilor elected by the people of Somerset admits excercising personal feelings in guiding her actions directed against a single Somerset citizen. It could be assessed that there existed and still exists a "campaign" waged against me. There is plenty of opposition directed against me in RK forums, and I hold no official political affiliation. I have actually belonged, if you call belonging to a subgroup in RK forums, to every political party that has some semblance of existence in Somerset and which posseses a subgroup.

I ask any reasonable person who has fought as hard as I have fought to make Somerset better; what would you do if you were accused of false allegations by an elected Councilor delegated with the safety and well-being of Somerset's citizens who maintains strong feeling of ill-will against one person, of no political affiliation, so much as to accuse a fellow list member of defamation because of mere reference to you and reference to incidents which occurred over four months in the past?

Am "I" the one being unreasonable? Or should those who act in this fashion be held accountable for their actions?

I will need instructions on how to apply for recognition as both Defense Council and Prosecution within the county of Somerset. I do know the HRH has applied here and been accepted; yet I do not dare to compare in knowledge to this cailber of citizen. ANy assistance would be appreciated in this matter; for I will need to handle this Prosecution and given the weight of these accusation, may need to act as Defense Council for myself in the near future. One does not take lightly the accusation of one noble Councilor Alikath, Earl of Dean, against another noble Dylan Longbranch, Baron of Churchdown.

Quote :

Art. 2.2.1. : An act of defamation is defined as any form of written or verbal communication that attacks the personal or professional honour of any citizen of the Duchy.
The act of defamation is a light crime and the sentence shall be a public apology with a fine of 1 pound to 200 pounds, depending on the consequences of the defamation on the victim. In case the act of defamation is directed towards a noble, civil servant or military officer, or is a repeat offense, the sentence shall be jail time.

Forgive me all for my interruption here as I feel I am just a small fish in a very large, very sticky fish pond. Now I cant pretend to understand all of the complex relationships and personal feeling hat exist between all the people in Somerset but I think Alikath is being quite unfair to dill.

I have never once seen him once insult, abuse or harass anyone in any forum he is merely a passionate, concerned citizen who wants to act for the good of the people of the county. I also do not see how Rebo was at all defaming Alikath in his post, he was stating his opinion (whether it is true or not who is to say).

I do however fail to see how referring to dill as "Someone so undeserving" is not insulting. It is implying that dill is somehow lower than you, though I’m sure that’s not what you were suggesting councillor...

DylanLongbranch wrote:

Unfortunately, numerous members of the council were bickering at that time.

And unfortunately it seems there is nothing anyone can do to stop it because the Somerset Council just can't get along for some unknown reason.

May I request that the current rank structure of the SAS be over ruled and the former structure as detailed here
https://somerset.rpg-board.net/sas-recruitement-office-f34/structure-and-ranking-of-the-sas-t559.htm
be reinstated.

The old structure allowed more opportunity for advancement as well as greater latitude in RP.

Milady Brighda,

I implore you to be patient. The tinkers and soldiers of SAS are currently formulating exactly what you are requesting. We're trying to mesh the new concepts with the former and even improve upon it. Could you please wait a bit longer till we are able to present a decent draft to consider. Please make known what you think is lacking so that we may incorporate it. The SAS threads would probably be more convenient for the tinkers to see and adjust.

The advancement issue was a major issue and I believe you will be more than pleased with the result. Could you please explain some more what you had in mind with "greater latitude" with regards to RP? That way we can include that into the proposal. SAS is gaining momentum and we are excited about the future. Come help us.

DILL