Discussion-Returning county business back to the RK forum.

It has been suggested that all county business should be conducted in the RK forum as it is a part of the game and would be archived there for prosperity instead of an off site forum where it is not controlled by the admins of the game.

Isabella has been a very active admin, very responsive to all requests. But what if she is not always available. I think we have more flexibility here. The ability to create and manipulate these forums to match the needs of the county.

I appreciate the ability to come here and complete all the reading I have to to catch up on county business. I am not unhappy with these forums.

I think perhaps we should or could move the public viewing area of the council chambers back to the in game forum so that more citizens of Somerset have access. Perhaps we could add this to the spokesman's job description. To update each of the public viewing areas here and in game so that we and the citizens are aware of the activities we have gotten up to.

I had not considered posterity, though with cut and paste we could likely maintain a history of council actions from here to the game forums. I don't know. I still like being able to get everything done here.

better moving it out

Because i will no manage that zoo, and will not endure anymore personal attack, irl attack and harassement.

Some people want to have fun hurting other and always diminuhing other let they have their fun alone.

I am tire and don'T care anymore ... next colony i move out

For one thing, look at how fast we can modify our boards here. Within minutes of reading posts bemoaning the lack of a place for the citizens to discuss county business, we were able to have this forum opened and functional. That's simply not possible on the RK forum.

Also, here we function as our own moderators. The critters (and I'm one) aren't here to take care of us, so we have to do the job ourselves. It's a mixed blessing, but it DOES gift us with the ability to be a bit more forthright in our speech ... although flames will NOT be tolerated ... However, words like 'crap' or 'arse' might get overlooked here ...

Although I also have reservations about responsiveness and freedom in the RK forum, I'm in favour of moving back there, simply because I think most people don't register here and miss out on what goes on here. I am also in favour of allowing everyone to read most council debates, with private ones being the exceptions.

Perhaps the best way to analyze this is by a list of positives and negatives, to see which list is most pursuasive. Once this list is constructed, see if any of the negatives can be turned into positives, or minimized. If the reasons to move are sufficient to overcome inertia, than move. Otherwise, if it ain't broke, don't break it.
For example, not everybody can find these boards, even with the link in the castle. This could be mitigated by including a link in the mentor's letters, posting it on the forums under a revised new player guide ...
By moving from these boards, you do lose the dice below ... it's quite helpful for RP

Overall, if you don't want to adminster these boards, then it's best to leave no matter what is decided above.

Keep smiling all

Given the sort of outbursts and posts that have occurred in council chambers in the past I have no issue with moving the forum to the RK boards where such out of turn and untoward outbursts are covered by RK forum posting laws and where posters can be held responsible by admin for these actions.

Such behavior is given a pass here more often than not and noone should have to be privy to such behavior and treatment as has happened in chambers here.

on the flip side there are positives here as to the ability to design chambers as needed and wanted and to be able to effect these changes immediately upon request or agreement.

There is also the positive effect of having more room here for the various facets of the county Council, Military and Embassy structure than will be afforded on RK due to the restrictions on sub forums.

I will have to give thought to which I place greater emphasis on and which will serve the county more, Freedom of movement and organizational facets vs the right to conduct council business in a more policed atmosphere where people are held to strict standards of behavior.

Ellsbeth, I shall hold myself responsible for policing our behaviour, but do concede that IN PRIVATE chambers, I shall allow a bit more freedom than the RK censors will. We all need to be able to blow off steam at times, and we all need to be a bit more adult about letting our peers do so. I do include myself in this ...

FOR MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY, ALL OTHERS DISREGARD:

Well, I'm glad to see the "*edited* contest"--apologies if that is too crass--that seemed to surpass the issue at hand in private chambers be over with here. Jah, how I would have loved to tell you guys to grow up after what I've heard. Did too, did not, did too, did not. Mind you there were some great points and counterpoints; but as a layperson I was far from amused at the "bickering". I'll refrain from perpetuating that sillyness by naming names, been awhile since I was in third grade. So in conclusion to that idea, BRAVO, you guys seem to be working to move forward on the issue, Now.

Now, for my humble perpesctive, as "I'm not a smaht man", unlike yah Catullus--think Forrest Gump for the reference if you're lost. Mind you, I began playing about the same time as Catullus, and I just now visited these forums. I did however head to RK forums first. Think about it. I actually thought this site was for SAS only, after I finally figured out--ahem, was told--what SAS stood for. Every player is not a rocket scientist like you guys are. So in short, making it public here isn't all that public for the ignant masses, which Jah knows the world is full of, me being a prominent member of that horde. I know it's asking alot, but if you really wanted to be transparent, you would go public in both places, and work within the constraints of RK forums, and enjoy the liberty here. Wow, perhaps you can have your cake and icing too.

Now to my notes, if I can still decipher em. Mind you they may ramble. Problem with security on seeing who isn't there to vote--don't vote on weekends, duh. Perhaps announce well in advance when a vote will take place, or have a set day for votes, duh. Again I say there are no problems, only solutions not yet discovered, or pondered, or quibbled over until we act like adults, over age 13 to play if I read the rules right. THat dribbling sound familiar? It should, it's how we will see your dilberations if you fail to excercise some focus and determination. Sorry if I offend, but it's the Jah's honest persepctive from an idiot, or town jester if you prefer the formal title.

Oh, and whining about Partisan intentions and name calling I would think is below people of your sorts. You're elected administrators, the best from among us, please act like it. What I, the layperson, am seeing is old vendetta's, still being held onto. Go see a Priest and confess, get it off your chest. If both sides truly want transparency, talk about how to make that happen as you are doing here. Follow Catullus' suggestion of pros an cons listed, then address each con to see how to overcome it. Who cares who did it, did not, did too, did not, did too--gonna make everyone did on out of here till no one left TO DO anything. Think about it. You guys have a great county before you, Jah know's how I was blessed to come to live in it, but for Heaven's sake, stop throwing it away. Or I too may follow the throngs of mature players vying for a non-childish atmosphere. That or we'll turn into the 5-minute log in, eat, hire and leave players. I'm sure each of you hate me now, and I promise you I will not lose sleep over it. If I broke some law helping you all to get abong--I liked that one by the way, only smile during the arduous affair--then may the courts please show mercy on me. If not, then guess I didn't need RK after all. See what it will come down to. Now reflect, and start working on a solution; before your problem destroys ya.

THE DILL PICKLE NOW STEPS DOWN OFF HIS SOAPBOX.